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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Banners, Google and Anguish&#8221; or &#8220;No random numbers please, we&#8217;re Google.&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Gillesv</title>
		<link>http://blog.vandenoostende.com/2009/%e2%80%9cbanners-google-and-anguish%e2%80%9d-or-%e2%80%9cno-random-numbers-please-we%e2%80%99re-google%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-188</link>
		<dc:creator>Gillesv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 07:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Leland, thanks for commenting.

Yeah, it&#039;s a bullshit measure, but if you like Tweener, you should check out TweenLite/TweenMax. It&#039;s got a very similar API to Tweener, is also AS2/AS3 compatible, is smaller (4KB when compiled) AND outperforms Tweener.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Leland, thanks for commenting.</p>
<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s a bullshit measure, but if you like Tweener, you should check out TweenLite/TweenMax. It&#8217;s got a very similar API to Tweener, is also AS2/AS3 compatible, is smaller (4KB when compiled) AND outperforms Tweener.</p>
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		<title>By: Leland Hodgkins</title>
		<link>http://blog.vandenoostende.com/2009/%e2%80%9cbanners-google-and-anguish%e2%80%9d-or-%e2%80%9cno-random-numbers-please-we%e2%80%99re-google%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-156</link>
		<dc:creator>Leland Hodgkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 03:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m also experiencing the &quot;random number&quot; rejection message on loading my swf into AdWords, and through trial and error I believe I&#039;ve narrowed it down to the use of the caurina Tweener class in - specifically the initial import command (import caurina.transitions.Tweener) at the top of my script. Even if I don&#039;t actually call a property like addTween anywhere in the script, adWords will reject the ad.

I checked the Tweener.as file and found Math.random used ONCE in a PRIVATE function. Really? Is this what&#039;s breaking my ad? I can&#039;t believe Google would prevent flash dev using the gloriously useful caurina Tweener class. I use it for all kinds of non-ad work, in both AS2/3, and I&#039;m flabbergasted that Google won&#039;t let me use this powerful tool in banner ad work. Any ideas for a workaround that doesn&#039;t involve abandoning caurina? Or worse, reverting to flashmxTween? (Or worse - timeline tweens - come on Google...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m also experiencing the &#8220;random number&#8221; rejection message on loading my swf into AdWords, and through trial and error I believe I&#8217;ve narrowed it down to the use of the caurina Tweener class in &#8211; specifically the initial import command (import caurina.transitions.Tweener) at the top of my script. Even if I don&#8217;t actually call a property like addTween anywhere in the script, adWords will reject the ad.</p>
<p>I checked the Tweener.as file and found Math.random used ONCE in a PRIVATE function. Really? Is this what&#8217;s breaking my ad? I can&#8217;t believe Google would prevent flash dev using the gloriously useful caurina Tweener class. I use it for all kinds of non-ad work, in both AS2/3, and I&#8217;m flabbergasted that Google won&#8217;t let me use this powerful tool in banner ad work. Any ideas for a workaround that doesn&#8217;t involve abandoning caurina? Or worse, reverting to flashmxTween? (Or worse &#8211; timeline tweens &#8211; come on Google&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Love</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 12:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The policy of no random numbers, I would say, is more for consistency and quality assurance rather than a security issue.
If your code produces a random affect, then Google, or Central in this case, cannot ensure your advert will not break the end-users experience.

Completely understand from both points of view, as an advertiser you want to be able to produce an advert to sell the product/service to the end user, if that is via a unique, or time sensitive experience, then so be it.
Unfortunately, Google/Central has to put their name to the advert via the &quot;Ads by Google&quot;, or a similar tag line, therefore they don&#039;t want to take any chances whereby an Advert might explode and leave a bad impression of Google Adverts in the end-users mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The policy of no random numbers, I would say, is more for consistency and quality assurance rather than a security issue.<br />
If your code produces a random affect, then Google, or Central in this case, cannot ensure your advert will not break the end-users experience.</p>
<p>Completely understand from both points of view, as an advertiser you want to be able to produce an advert to sell the product/service to the end user, if that is via a unique, or time sensitive experience, then so be it.<br />
Unfortunately, Google/Central has to put their name to the advert via the &#8220;Ads by Google&#8221;, or a similar tag line, therefore they don&#8217;t want to take any chances whereby an Advert might explode and leave a bad impression of Google Adverts in the end-users mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerome</title>
		<link>http://blog.vandenoostende.com/2009/%e2%80%9cbanners-google-and-anguish%e2%80%9d-or-%e2%80%9cno-random-numbers-please-we%e2%80%99re-google%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

Had the same issue today. Math.random() * (max - min) + min; was rejected. I re-submitted using date.getMilliseconds()%(max - min) + min;

Fingers crossed, I&#039;ll let you know if that worked!

Cheers,

JJ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>Had the same issue today. Math.random() * (max &#8211; min) + min; was rejected. I re-submitted using date.getMilliseconds()%(max &#8211; min) + min;</p>
<p>Fingers crossed, I&#8217;ll let you know if that worked!</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>JJ.</p>
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